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Qwen tongyi-qianwen-license-agreement out 3 years ago

72.3B parameters, text in, text out, 32K tokens of context.

Verified 2026-10-25 Rank #407 in LLMs · score 79.3 method v1 Sources 3 Downloads 30d 4.7k · #548 of 619 tracked

Can I run it?43GB at INT4Estimatefits a 64 GB Mac (unified memory)method
Can I use it?tongyi-qianwen-license-agreementCustom license; read the repo LICENSE before commercial hostinglicence file2026-10-24
Do people use it?4.7kdownloads, 30 days#548 of 619 we track · below the median+1 likes, downloads −99% this week369 likesHugging Face2026-10-24

Worth reading

Picked by rule from 43 tracked pieces: the lab's own post, the most shared, a field report, the latest.

Latest · 21 days ago

Run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (125B) on consumer hardware (RTX 4090) at 100T/s

Strata runs the 125-billion-parameter Qwen3.8-Flash-Next model on consumer hardware under an MIT license with no cloud dependencies.

  • RX 6000 cards lack a dedicated installer and must fetch the engine automatically after installing hip-rdna3 or amd-rx7900.
  • Strata never splits a single model across NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards, even if multiple cards of the same make are present.
github.com 2026-10-04 924 HN pts · 422 comments 3.4k words about the Qwen family family

25 best of 43 tracked

The 2 picks above, plus these 23. Top is the radar's score: discussion, source authority and the lab's own posts, fading with age.

  1. ArticleQwen Image 2.1qwen.ai · 2026-09-20 · 740 HN pts · official
  2. ArticleQwen3.8-Flash-Nextqwen.ai · 2026-08-26 · 704 HN pts · official
  3. ArticleQwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Coworkqwen.ai · 2026-08-03 · 1,124 HN pts · official
  4. ArticleQwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking thingssimonwillison.net · 2026-08-16 · 802 HN pts
  5. ArticleQwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/sinference-docs.cerebras.ai · 2026-09-03 · 691 HN pts
  6. ArticleQwen-Image-3.0: Rich Content, Authentic Details, Deep Knowledgeqwen.ai · 2026-07-21 · 571 HN pts · official
  7. DiscussionQwen 3.8twitter.com · 2026-07-19 · 961 HN pts
  8. ArticleQwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontierqwen.ai · 2026-05-20 · 721 HN pts · official
  9. ArticleLocal Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different toolblog.alexellis.io · 2026-06-18
  10. ArticleQwen3.6-27B: Flagship-Level Coding in a 27B Dense Modelqwen.ai · 2026-04-22 · official
  11. ArticleQwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to allqwen.ai · 2026-04-16 · official
  12. ArticleQwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolvingqwen.ai · 2026-04-20 · official
  13. ArticleQwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agentsqwen.ai · 2026-04-02 · official
  14. ArticleSomething is afoot in the land of Qwensimonwillison.net · 2026-03-04
  15. ArticleHow to run Qwen 3.5 locallyunsloth.ai · 2026-03-07
  16. ArticleQwen3-Coder-Nextqwen.ai · 2026-02-03 · official
  17. ArticleQwen3-Max-Thinkingqwen.ai · 2026-01-26 · official
  18. ArticleQwen3-TTS family is now open sourced: Voice design, clone, and generationqwen.ai · 2026-01-22 · official
  19. ArticleQwen3-Nextqwen.ai · 2025-09-12 · official
  20. ArticleQwen-Image: Crafting with native text renderingqwenlm.github.io · 2025-08-04 · official
  21. CodeShow HN: Qwen-2.5-32B is now the best open source OCR modelgithub.com · 2025-04-01
  22. CodeLocal autonomous security agent powered by Qwen 2.5-7B on Kali Linuxgithub.com · 2026-05-07
  23. ArticleQwen QVQ: First open source 'thinking' vision model.qwenlm.github.io · 2024-12-24 · official

Where it's used

Hugging Face does not say who downloads a model or with what. These are the proxies: API providers listing it, quantized builds, fine-tunes/adapters/merges, and Spaces that load it.

No API provider serves it, so its downloads are people running it themselves: 2 quantized builds and 5 Spaces.

  • As a service0no API provider listed
  • On own hardware2quantized builds
  • Built on11 fine-tunes · 0 adapters · 0 merges
  • In apps5Hugging Face Spaces

Top Spaces running it: Justinrune/LLaMA-Factory ♥ 12 · CATIE-AQ/Guide_Evaluation_LLM ♥ 5 · officialhimanshu595/llama-factory ♥ 4

Will it fit?

Weights only, an estimate: leave room for the KV cache. Method

Fits a 64 GB Mac (unified memory) at INT4

About 43 GB at INT4, 87 GB at FP8, 174 GB at BF16: weights only, so leave room for the KV cache.

16 GB card64 GB Mac2×80 GB8×80 GBINT4: about 43 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)INT443 GBFP8: about 87 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)FP887 GBBF16: about 174 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)BF16174 GB
16 GB card64 GB Mac2×80 GB8×80 GBINT4: about 43 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)INT443 GBFP8: about 87 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)FP887 GBBF16: about 174 GB of weights (estimate; KV cache and activations extra)BF16174 GB

Estimate params × bytes per param × 1.2 · how we estimate

The story so far

Weights, every dated article, and repo commits on one rail.

10 dated articles and 15 repo commits so far

Teal is the weights (2023-11-26), amber triangles are 10 dated articles (each links to it), grey ticks are repo commits.

DecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOct2024-10-09: 1 repo commit2024-01-09: 1 repo commit2023-12-13: 2 repo commits2023-12-07: 1 repo commit2023-12-06: 1 repo commit2023-12-04: 1 repo commit2023-12-03: 1 repo commit2023-11-30: 3 repo commits2023-11-28: 1 repo commit2023-11-27: 1 repo commit2023-11-26: 2 repo commitsQwen Image 2.1 · 2026-09-20Run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (125B) on consumer hardware (RTX 4090) at 100T/s · 2026-10-04Qwen3.8-Flash-Next · 2026-08-26Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork · 2026-08-03Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things · 2026-08-16Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s · 2026-09-03Qwen-Image-3.0: Rich Content, Authentic Details, Deep Knowledge · 2026-07-21Qwen 3.8 · 2026-07-19Qwen 3.6 27B is the sweet spot for local development · 2026-06-29Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier · 2026-05-20Weights 2023-11-26 · 2023-11-26Weights 2023-11-26now
DecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOct2024-10-09: 1 repo commit2024-01-09: 1 repo commit2023-12-13: 2 repo commits2023-12-07: 1 repo commit2023-12-06: 1 repo commit2023-12-04: 1 repo commit2023-12-03: 1 repo commit2023-11-30: 3 repo commits2023-11-28: 1 repo commit2023-11-27: 1 repo commit2023-11-26: 2 repo commitsQwen Image 2.1 · 2026-09-20Run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (125B) on consumer hardware (RTX 4090) at 100T/s · 2026-10-04Qwen3.8-Flash-Next · 2026-08-26Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Cowork · 2026-08-03Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking things · 2026-08-16Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/s · 2026-09-03Qwen-Image-3.0: Rich Content, Authentic Details, Deep Knowledge · 2026-07-21Qwen 3.8 · 2026-07-19Qwen 3.6 27B is the sweet spot for local development · 2026-06-29Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier · 2026-05-20Weights 2023-11-26 · 2023-11-26Weights 2023-11-26now

What people built on it

3 derivatives on the Hub. Which build to run, by runtime: the most downloaded in each class.

3 derivatives on the Hub, most of them quantized

From the Hugging Face model tree; quantized builds in teal, fine-tunes, merges and adapters in greys.

2 quantized (Hugging Face model tree)1 fine-tune (Hugging Face model tree)2 quantized1 fine-tune
2 quantized (Hugging Face model tree)1 fine-tune (Hugging Face model tree)2 quantized1 fine-tune

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Reference

Everything else, folded: the full tables, every source.

Benchmarks

11 rows

Benchmarks 11 rows

measured third-party leaderboard rowauthor-reported number from the model card or eval files (11)No confidence intervals unless the source gave them; settings differ between rows, so compare within a benchmark, not across. Date = the benchmark's own date when it gives one, else when we read it.
BenchmarkValueSetting / notesReported byDate
author-reported AGIEval62.50-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported Avg66.4—model author2026-10-07
author-reported BBH · Reason through hard problems67.73-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported C-Eval · Work across languages83.35-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported CMMLU · Work across languages83.65-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported GSM8K · Reason through hard problems78.98-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported GaokaoBench87.60-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported HumanEval · Write code with agents35.40-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported MATH-500 · Reason through hard problems35.24-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported MBPP · Write code with agents52.23-shotmodel author2026-10-07
author-reported MMLU · Reason through hard problems77.45-shotmodel author2026-10-07

Use-case evidence

3 use cases

What it is good at 3 use cases

Labels are evidence, not verdicts: measured a third-party leaderboard row for this model; author-reported a number the model author published in the card or eval files; structural a deterministic signal from the name, config or chat template, or a decision-model estimate. Each chip links to its source. All use cases.

Facts

21 fields

Listed in LLMs

Facts

Pipeline tagtext-generation
Librarytransformers
ArchitecturesQWenLMHeadModel
Model typeqwen
Params by dtypeBF16: 72,287,920,128
Size bandXL
MoEno
Context length32,768 (config.json max_position_embeddings)
Languageszh, en
PapersarXiv:2309.16609
Licensetongyi-qianwen-license-agreement (other)
Hub snapshot2026-10-25

Servability

vLLM · SGLang

Servability

vLLM: not in registry · QWenLMHeadModel · 7050ef881ff0835f6890a47db1859a24c65481d6SGLang: supported · QWenLMHeadModel · 773cb938fe9484a8f7e7e46fb1b1fe96412c59ed

vLLM registry (7050ef881ff0835f6890a47db1859a24c65481d6) · SGLang registry (773cb938fe9484a8f7e7e46fb1b1fe96412c59ed) · Matched by architecture class name against each project's registry on main; 'supported' means the architecture is registered, not that this checkpoint was tested.

Hardware fit

3 estimates

Hardware fit ESTIMATE

Weights-only memory for Qwen-72B: params × bytes/param × 1.2 overhead. KV cache and activations are extra. How this is computed.

BF16 (2 bytes/param)174 GB · Multi-GPU node (<640 GB)
FP8 (1 byte/param)87 GB · Multi-GPU node (<640 GB)
INT4 (0.5 bytes/param)43 GB · Single high-end GPU (<80 GB)

Weights only (params × bytes/param × 1.2 overhead); KV cache and activations extra.

All variants

3 variants

Lineage

Original model Family: Qwen/Qwen 3 derivatives on the Hub

finetune: 1quantized: 2

Top variants (3 shown, ranked by downloads)

Relation
3 rows
Variant Relation Quant Params Band License Author Likes Downloads
Qwen/Qwen-72B-Chat finetune — 72.3B XL other Qwen 163 154.7k
mradermacher/Qwen-72B-i1-GGUF quantized GGUF — — other mradermacher 1 8.7k
mradermacher/Qwen-72B-GGUF quantized GGUF — — other mradermacher 1 3.1k

Repository changelog

15 commits

Repository changelog 15 commits

DateCommitSHA
2024-10-09 Expose metadata link to next version of the model (#11) b8e18ac
2024-01-09 Update README.md 6dae9c8
2023-12-13 update wechat 6ccff2c
2023-12-13 update wechat f19b2b9
2023-12-07 update modeling_qwen.py fec78c0
2023-12-06 update modeling_qwen.py 2380231
2023-12-04 update modeling_qwen.py f62c598
2023-12-03 update modeling_qwen.py 61cd91c
2023-11-30 update 3c79efc
2023-11-30 update 29606ad
2023-11-30 update 4c539df
2023-11-28 update config, split in 2GB 443804a
2023-11-27 Update config.json b4a48ab
2023-11-26 init upload 15a041f
2023-11-26 initial commit b20608b

Articles and coverage

43 pieces

Ranked by source signals (HN, Lobsters, authority domains, official posts) and recency. Summaries are generated from a stored copy of the article text; every sentence cites a span of that text, and nothing is shown that failed the citation check.

Official5

qwen.ai2026-09-20officialauthorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 740 pts · 199 comments1,216 words
Qwen-Image-2.1 is an open-source image model released on September 20, 2026, that unifies text-to-image generation and image editing. The model uses a visual generation component with 32 Single-Stream DiT layers and 7B parameters, employing a mixed-granularity attention architecture to optimize inference efficiency. It supports native transparency and allows users to use up to 10 reference images for generating coherent compositions.written, reviewed, cited
  • The model uses KV cache reuse to compute and cache input images and editing instructions in the first step.
  • Qwen-Image-2.1 accepts the original image and a separate mask as two inputs to preserve complete input during local editing.
  • Text rendering considers type styles, layout, and their relationship to the overall composition, not just content.
qwen.ai2026-08-26officialauthorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 704 pts · 233 comments3,581 words
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is a 125B-parameter multimodal MoE model with 51B N-gram embeddings and 6B activated parameters per token. It natively supports 262,144 tokens of context and is extensible to 1,000,000 tokens with YaRN. The production version on QwenCloud costs 0.15 USD per million input tokens and 0.47 USD per million output tokens.written, reviewed, cited
  • The model uses a Muon optimizer refined around orthogonalization accuracy and the division of labour between Muon and AdamW.
  • Qwen Sparse Attention compresses the sequence into micro-blocks to estimate context importance at the block level before selecting regions.
  • Gated Residual expands the original single residual stream into four parallel branches to dynamically control reads and writes.
qwen.ai2026-08-03officialauthorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 1,124 pts · 612 comments11,334 words
Qwen 3.8-Max is a 2.4 trillion parameter model with 95B active parameters available via QwenCloud, featuring open weights releasing next week. The model self-evolves through feedback loops to complete complex tasks end-to-end with greater reliability. Over 16 days of fully autonomous AI operation, the repository accumulated 265 commits, 127 PRs, and 151 issues.written, reviewed, cited
  • The autonomous coding harness routes abnormal states back to relevant issues for fixes and re-verification.
  • The model beats the paper's own approach with a +2.7-point gain on the AIME24 math benchmark.
qwen.ai2026-07-21officialauthorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 571 pts · 217 comments1,381 words
qwen.ai2026-05-20officialauthorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 721 pts · 290 comments3,821 words

Analysis4

github.com2026-10-04authorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 924 pts · 422 comments3,398 words
Strata runs the 125-billion-parameter Qwen3.8-Flash-Next model on consumer hardware under an MIT license with no cloud dependencies. Users need at least 32 GB of combined RAM and graphics memory, with NVIDIA drivers version 580 or newer recommended for optimal performance. The model download size ranges from 40 to 70 GB, and the engine supports OpenAI and Anthropic API compatibility for local agent integration.written, reviewed, cited
  • RX 6000 cards lack a dedicated installer and must fetch the engine automatically after installing hip-rdna3 or amd-rx7900.
  • Strata never splits a single model across NVIDIA and AMD graphics cards, even if multiple cards of the same make are present.
  • The Coder model requires 32 GB of RAM and retains only half of its experts, making it weaker for non-code tasks.
simonwillison.net2026-08-16authorityHN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 802 pts · 385 comments2,116 words
Qwen 3.8 27B is an Apache 2 licensed 27B parameter vision-capable LLM from Alibaba that defaults to an extra high reasoning effort, causing it to overthink simple tasks. The model is a 17GB file capable of vision tasks like bounding box detection and driving coding agents, though generating a complex pelican SVG takes 21 minutes using 22,276 reasoning tokens. Disabling reasoning reduces generation to 137 seconds, while Multi-Token Prediction boosts performance by around 72% compared to the default GGUF setup.written, reviewed, cited
  • The model defaults to xhigh reasoning effort, which is described as a bad place to start for consumer hardware.
  • Running the model with Multi-Token Prediction via llama-server outperformed the default LM Studio GGUF by around 72%.
  • Dense non-Mixture-of-Experts models require a whole lot of memory bandwidth to perform well on available machines.
inference-docs.cerebras.ai2026-09-03HN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 691 pts · 228 comments392 words
quesma.com2026-06-29HN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 1,192 pts · 759 comments1,257 words

Community1

twitter.com2026-07-19HN front pageabout the Qwen familyHN 961 pts · 731 comments
All coverage tracked for this model (43) — append-only, nothing is ever removed
TitleSourcePublishedFirst seenSignals
Model Overview - Qwenmintlify.com—2026-10-07exa
Qwen 2 72B | Open Laboratoryopenlaboratory.com—2026-10-07exa
Qwen-72B Review, Pricing & Alternatives 2026 | AI Indigoaiindigo.com—2026-10-07exa
LLaMA 3 70B vs Qwen 72B for Chatbot / Conversational AI: GPU Benchmark GIGAGPUgigagpu.com—2026-10-07exa
Qwen 3: Complete Guide — Architecture, Benchmarks, API, Pricing & Use Cases 2026 | aimodels.inaimodels.in—2026-10-07exa
Run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (125B) on consumer hardware (RTX 4090) at 100T/sgithub.com2026-10-042026-10-07hn
Qwen Image 2.1qwen.ai official2026-09-202026-10-07hn
Qwen 3.8 27B available on Cerebras at 1500 tokens/sinference-docs.cerebras.ai2026-09-032026-10-07hn
Qwen3.8-Flash-Nextqwen.ai official2026-08-262026-10-07hn
Qwen 3.8 27B is excellent, but it defaults to overthinking thingssimonwillison.net2026-08-162026-10-07hn
Qwen3.8-Max: A New Bar for Coding and Coworkqwen.ai official2026-08-032026-10-07hn
Qwen-Image-3.0: Rich Content, Authentic Details, Deep Knowledgeqwen.ai official2026-07-212026-10-07hn
Qwen 3.8twitter.com2026-07-192026-10-07hn
Qwen 3.6 27B is the sweet spot for local developmentquesma.com2026-06-292026-10-07hn
Local Qwen isn't a worse Opus, it's a different toolblog.alexellis.io2026-06-182026-10-07hn
Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontierqwen.ai official2026-05-202026-10-07hn
Local autonomous security agent powered by Qwen 2.5-7B on Kali Linuxgithub.com2026-05-072026-10-07hn
Qwen3.6-27B: Flagship-Level Coding in a 27B Dense Modelqwen.ai official2026-04-222026-10-07hn
Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolvingqwen.ai official2026-04-202026-10-07hn
Qwen3.6-35B-A3B: Agentic coding power, now open to allqwen.ai official2026-04-162026-10-07hn
Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agentsqwen.ai official2026-04-022026-10-07hn
How to run Qwen 3.5 locallyunsloth.ai2026-03-072026-10-07hn
Something is afoot in the land of Qwensimonwillison.net2026-03-042026-10-07hn
Qwen3-Coder-Nextqwen.ai official2026-02-032026-10-07hn
Qwen3-Max-Thinkingqwen.ai official2026-01-262026-10-07hn
Qwen3-TTS family is now open sourced: Voice design, clone, and generationqwen.ai official2026-01-222026-10-07hn
Qwen 2 Python 72B MoE — johal.injohal.in2025-11-272026-10-07exa
Qwen3-Nextqwen.ai official2025-09-122026-10-07hn
Qwen-Image: Crafting with native text renderingqwenlm.github.io official2025-08-042026-10-07hn
Optimising DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Qwen-7B for use in productionfin.ai2025-07-182026-10-07hn
Qwen 3 1.7B running locally on mobile at 30 tokens/stwitter.com2025-05-162026-10-07hn
New open-source model GLM-4-32B with performance comparable to Qwen 2.5 72Bgithub.com2025-04-162026-10-07hn
Show HN: Qwen-2.5-32B is now the best open source OCR modelgithub.com2025-04-012026-10-07hn
Qwen2-72B-Instruct: What the Model Actually Does and How It Compares - People & Mediapeopleandmedia.com2024-12-262026-10-07exa
Qwen QVQ: First open source 'thinking' vision model.qwenlm.github.io official2024-12-242026-10-07hn
Free Qwen 2.5, Llama Nemotron, OpenBioLLM, Gemini Exp 1121, and LearnLM 1.5 Pronews.ycombinator.com2024-11-232026-10-07hn
Prem-SQL-1B First 1B SLM Rivals 4o, Outperforms Qwen-7B on BirdBench Private Setgithub.com2024-09-252026-10-07hn
Qwen2.5-72B-Instruct Review — Benchmarks, Pricing & AI Panel Verdict | TopReviewed.aitopreviewed.ai2024-09-182026-10-07exa
Run Alicloud's Qwen LLM with a 2MB cross GPU/CPU rust appsecondstate.io2024-02-282026-10-07hn
Qwen OSS 7B,14B models; techreport - Code-Qwen, Math-Qwen [sep28'23]arxiv.org2023-11-302026-10-07hn
Open-source LLM Qwen-72B and Qwen-1.8Btwitter.com2023-11-302026-10-07hn
Qwen-72B and Qwen-1.8Btwitter.com2023-11-302026-10-07hn
Alibaba Releases AI Models Qwen-7B and Qwen-7B-Chat to Rival Meta's Llama 2github.com2023-08-032026-10-07hn

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